more thoughts on needing discipline
I messed up this weekend. I left a camera in my Master’s car overnight. This is very serious, because his car has been broken into in our parking area before. It wasn’t our most expensive camera, but it’s one we are both quite fond of, and it has some pictures on the memory card that have not been copied to a computer and which we would have been sad to loose.
When my Master confronted me about this, I felt really badly about it. I apologized, explained that when we got out of the car that evening I was feeling quite crashed out, and then apologized again and said I understood the seriousness of my mistake.
Well, I now sort of wish that I had just said, “Yeah, whatever!” because he just forgave me and was understanding.
It’s hard for me to get my head around the fact that I don’t want my husband to be sweet and gentle and understanding. I want — and need — him to be a strict Master. He seemed to want that, too, when we got together. But now he seems quite happy lavishing me with love and understanding.
How can I complain about that?! But it doesn’t make me happy — I’ve had that from partners in vanilla relationships, and it didn’t fulfill me — didn’t make me a better person or partner.
Strictness does make me a better person and partner. Knowing I have to do things correctly, or I will be held accountable makes me infinitely better — makes me think before I do things (which always helps!) If I don’t fear a punishment, I will tend to slip back into thoughtless wandering through life (and then feeling bad when things go awry, which of course they will.)
I don’t want to pressure my Master to have to discipline me when he doesn’t feel like it. But my assumption, when I got into this relationship, was that he would, generally, want to do that sort of thing. That punishing me for misdeeds and mistakes was something he wanted and needed, and that he wanted a partner who needed to be punished for her misdeeds and mistakes.
I have finally figured out what I need from life and love. I need the strictness I didn’t get growing up, so that I can improve as a person and be someone you’d actually want to be in a relationship with. And more than that, it turns me on to be in that kind of relationship, to have someone wield that power over me, to be made to accept discipline, even when I feel I have a good excuse for my mess-up. So it’s something I want and need on more than one level, something that’s profoundly a part of all aspects of me, myself, and I.
I assume he is trying to be fair to me because of my chronic illness. But that’s exactly what I do not need. I got sick when I was 17, and basically, because I was so sick, I had a free pass on how I could behave — and I always had the excuse, “Oh, I was feeling really unwell when I said/did that.”
So I essentially stopped emotionally maturing at about 17. Obviously I’ve grown in a number of ways, but the fact that I have always had an excuse to get away with stuff has not been growth-promoting to my personality, or my understanding of responsiblity — i.e “owning my shit.”
What I need from my Master is for him to hold me accountable, even when I’m not feeling top-notch. I believe I can learn to be responsible even when I feel tired, sick, etc. And anyway, if I’m going to have this illness for the rest of my life, it certainly doesn’t hurt to try! But I can’t — and honestly won’t — learn how to do this on my own. It’s far too easy, when not feeling well, to slide back into excuses. When I am feeling well I can put true effort into self-improvement and becoming a mature, thoughtful person. But, like a kid, I need a firm hand on the reins when it’s not coming easy to me.
I understand that for a good, kind man like my Master, it might be hard to punish someone for mistakes they make when they are feeling unwell. But then I think that it will be hard for me to accept it, and yet I’m willing to try … so it makes me sad to think he might not be willing to try, too.
My Master has told me that he loves the power and control of being a Master, and that he would never want a vanilla relationship. And I have seen first hand how aroused he gets when he actually gets to punish me for a real transgressions (as opposed to role-play scenes).
So what I just don’t understand is why he doesn’t embrace my every slightest mistake as a chance to enjoy his power and control — perhaps not always beating me, but lecturing me, making me write lines or an essay on how I could do better next time, stand in the corner, etc.
I don’t understand, and honestly, it hurts me. I know I need to stop thinking that everything is about me … but in my confusion, it’s easy for doubts to rise up. Maybe I just don’t inspire him to want to discipline me? I can hear him say in my head, “No, it’s not that,” but I need to hear more than that, if it’s not that, I need to understand what it actually is, so that I can banish the doubts once and for all and it can stop being about me.
Until then, I can’t help but notice every time I mess up and he just shrugs it off. I can’t help but mourn the lost opportunity, can’t help but wonder, “if not this time, then when?”
And I can’t help but wonder if we had some terrible miscommunication somewhere. If, since things were going so well in the beginning, if when he said he wanted a slave he meant one thing, and when I said I wanted to be his slave I meant another, and if that can ever be fixed….
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*ponders*
Zille? Ask him to read this.
*hugs*
You know I got nothing, at least not right now. But I did want say *something*, such a heartfelt post as this needs some attention. (well, all your posts need attention but this one especially!)
I am curious, and I hope you share, what your Master said/thought about your post. If you want, that is.
*muah*
Dear Beth — you’ll be happy to know my Master reads all my journal posts….
Kaya, my dear friend — I will share, as soon as he and I get a chance to talk about it. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment, esp. since you’re in the middle of your own stuff! [hug]
Zille, looking at your post from your Masters point of view, it was hard for me to really punish my beloved, even when I knew that she needed the punishment.
It took me a while to get it, that Mel needed it and that she grew very unhappy when she wasn’t punished.
Your Master is kind and loving and punishing isn’t a natural reaction, it’s a learned reaction and needs time to come fully on line.
It will happen, your situation isn’t unique, so many slaves/subs have this complaint, it generally works out.
Love and warm hugs,
Paul.
I like the way you put it, Paul, that, “punishing isn’t a natural reaction, it’s a learned reaction and needs time to come fully on line” — great turn of phrase!
I actually feel quite sure that he and I will work this out. This post was more of a venting of past fears (that might resurface if not squashed) and not an exact reflection of where my head is right at this moment (more a snapshot of fears I’ve had over time, tied together more coherently than I ever thought them the first time ’round!)
He and I are working on figuring out how to set things up so that he is not pressured, and I get the discipline that I need. We just need to stay committed to honest and transparent communication, and not getting caught up in life until we get to a good place with this, and everything will be fine — no, better than fine!
And I know we will need to keep this dialogue up for the rest of our lives … but I think if we can get it settled now, it might be easier to maintain over time….
He wanted a slave, but I doubt that he wanted another job.
i so hear you on needing that correction. The reinforcement. As a parent i understand the other side as well. There are times that we are genuinely sorry for our misdeeds. Do you find that even when Master has forgiven be it with or with out punishment that you will “punish” yourself even longer? i will find that i am beating myself up over something that Master may have ( i don’t want to say forgotten, the Man never forgets that sort of thing) put behind us. i will do this even more, repeatedly chastise myself if He doesn’t discipline me or until the punishment is over if it was a restriction of a privilege. i’m guessing that if it were something you were repeatedly doing, or He starts to notice a pattern of you using your illness to get out yourself out of doing things He will crack down on you.
Hugs
jewel`
“Any Mouse” — if being a Master to me is a “job,” then there are serious problems with my Master’s and my relationship! And I find that comment a bit facile and superficial.
jewel`, my dear –
I am always sorry for my misdeeds (unless I’m in a snit, in which case I will be defensive but when I come out of it I will be sorry both for the misdeed and the snit!)
I will beat myself up over stuff … unless my Master punishes me. If he punishes me, I find I can “let go” and move forward.
At the moment, I’m so scared of screwing up, because I’m afraid he won’t punish me, but will just distance himself from me in his displeasure.
That, I could not bear!
I’m not saying that being your master must be a job. I’m saying that you can make it a job.
It’s like the difference between work (good) and a job (good only if paid enough).